The suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty by India has sparked a range of reactions, primarily characterized by national pride and strategic satisfaction among Indian commentators. Many supporters view it as a justified geopolitical maneuver in response to alleged terrorism supported by Pakistan. However, concerns persist about the potential humanitarian impact on Pakistani citizens, who may suffer from water shortages, and the possibility of escalating tensions with nuclear-armed neighbors. While the sentiment mainly leans nationalistic, there is significant apprehension regarding logistical challenges, such as water management in India, ethical implications, and the potential involvement of China influencing the region's stability. A portion of the discourse stresses the need for peaceful resolutions over conflict.

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NymusRaed

Hopefully no war comes of this, both Nations wield Atomic Weapons and are densely populated.

thatsocialist

jeffreycoley

Context:

The Indus Water Treaty is a treaty signed by the early leaders of India and Pakistan to share the waters of the Indus River System, after the First Kashmir War and the LOC (Line of Control) drawn to separate the state of Jammu and Kashmir.

Pakistan consists of 4 provinces:- Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan, Sindh and Punjab. Of these, Sindh and Punjab are the population centres (by a huge margin), which are the major areas of the Indus valley. The Indus Valley is irrigated by the Indus river, and its 5 tributaries.

The term Punjab refers to the land of 5 rivers. These are the 5 eastern tributaries of the Indus, namely (from west to east) the Jhelum, the Chenab, the Ravi, the Beas and the Sutlej. In some ways, these 5 rivers and the cultures of the lands irrigated by these rivers have been more prominent/significant in Indic history than the Indus river itself, especially the post Vedic age.

The Indus Water Treaty deemed that the 3 western rivers of the system; the Indus, the Jhelum and the Chenab belong fully to Pakistan, and all its waters, although the rivers all begin in Jammu and Kashmir (Indian control).

Meanwhile, the eastern rivers; Ravi, Beas and Sutlej all belong to India. The Ravi, Beas and Sutlej all begin/run through the Indian state of Himachal Pradesh (not disputed). The Sutlej starts in Tibet but most of its water catchment is in Himachal Pradesh anyway. The Ravi is the border between Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab (India) and Himachal Pradesh.

However, the catch is that of the 6 rivers, 80% of the water of the entire Indus system comes from the 3 western rivers. For a long time before the current Nationalist government in India, subsequent Indian governments have honored this agreement despite its extreme detriment to India.

The Jhelum begins in Kashmir valley, while the Chenab begins in upper Himachal but passes through major areas of the Jammu region later on. Both the Jhelum and Chenab river valleys are inhabited mostly by ethnic Kashmiris, all of which is under India. 

Kashmiri farmers are unable to rely on their own rivers due to the Indus Water Treaty, and India can build no dams on these 2 rivers to help Kashmiri farmers. The revocation of the Indus Water Treaty in India's view, will be good for Kashmiris (especially Kashmiri farmers) but bad for Pakistani Punjabis, whose agriculture relies on these rivers. Moreover, India cant divert these rivers out of Kashmir anyway since theres a mountain range between this region and the rest of India (Pir Panjal range).

Yesterday, the Pahalgam terror attack took place, where terrorists exclusively killed 25 Hindu tourists (plus one Muslim local who tried to help them) after checking IDs, asking them to recite the Kalma to prove if they are Muslim or not, and even asking them to pull their pants down to check for circumcision (Muslims are circumcised, Hindus are not).

The revocation of the Indus Water Treaty is a response to this Pakistani terror attack, among others like the closing of the Attari border, and the reduction of ambassadors. Pakistani citizens in India are given 48 hours to leave India right now.

Note: TRF (The Resistance Front), an offshoot of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) has claimed responsibility for the attack. LeT operated from within Pakistan and funds and launches terrorist attacks within India and the Indian side of Jammu and Kashmir.

Hydroscorpio_18

like how Hyderabad is just chilling there.....

AnimatorPlayful6587

Vibes seem pretty chill in that area of the world

Col_mac

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India and Afghanistan to Pakistan now

Nice_Leopard_7135

Can someone give a synopsis please? I'm unfamiliar with this treaty and its ramifications.

joustswindmills

US preferring Pakistan over India during the Cold war was a mistake.

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I’m not even trying to be against india’s claim over kashmir here but at least when talking about control of waterways it would be more appropriate for a map to show the actual line of control instead of claims? 

Thats what makes a good map, one that shows information useful to that its intending to present.

Los-Stupidos

Just one question how they are going to implement it... I mean how will they divert water and where

vishalsharmaa22

Iron-Phoenix2307

Organic_Group3352

Other country's: have a military.

Pakistan:Military has a contury.

The map should really have de facto control of Kashmir rather than India's claim for a post like this.

BootsAndBeards

India and their habit of showing others territory as their own.

KidJuggernaut

India tried to amend the treaty. Pakistan said no.

India be like, “ok, we’ll do it our way”.

Starts a false flag operation, blames Pakistan within minutes, blocks the water as a form of revenge.


lol what a bozo of a nation.

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They should think about water before sending terrorists

sayzitlikeitis

How the fuck is every step taken by India is a geopolitical threat, but Pakistan gets an imf bailout. Fuck this shit. Just stop the water.

nz_mish_mosh

Pakistan sends tons of terrorist, is a manufacturing facility for terrorist, openly threats the neighbours with nuclear arms and yet nobody bats an eye, India threatens to close the water and suddenly everyone loses their shit

Lyner005

You keep on sending terrorist and think our actions are unjust.

sharkpeid

We are always the one who have to compromise right? Pakistan can do anything and they'd just another billion from the imf.

MuriManDog14

They are river India can revive to dibert the water

groundzero989

Scroll back to their true agendas.

&gt;the threat is less about India cutting off water flows – an unlikely and technically challenging act – and more about the erosion of trust

Only the scumbags at scroll have any trust in Pakistanis. How many more Indians need to die to terrorism for people like these to finally lose trust in their beloved country Pakistan?

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k---mkay

Finally some good steps. Let's just hope that the treaty stays suspended,

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Tbh this water shouldn't flow back ever. Have some spine Modiji

Enough-Pain3633

India should store as much water as possible in existing dams on Chenab and Jhelum, and go full monty with respect to future storage projects. Starve them of the water in the coming summer season.
Treaty should be terminated permanently, it was by far very favourable to Pakistan, thanks to you know who.

For all its shortcomings, the current Trump Administration is the most favorable to India on the issue of terrorism. So India can escalate with no pressure from the US. The only concern remains China.

HimalayanBeats

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He will address from an election rally - reading from a teleprompter - stay tuned

Adventurous-Age-277

Not enough in sab se un masoom logo ki aatma ko shanti nhi milegi Surgical strike maangta hai bharat

Thick-Imagination761

AssChucks

But Govt had announced that it has been canceled after Pulwama attack. So why are the announcing same thing twice.

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/economy-politics/story/pulwama-attack-aftermath-india-stops-its-share-of-water-to-pakistan-under-indus-treaty-173508-2019-03-10

ThinkingIndian

USA supports Pakistani terrorists to keep India under control. India is  USA's little bitch. Deal with this truth.
Howdymody? Agar Woh orange baboon muh se succchiiiiin Tendulkar bol de ya Swammiwewekamunnnndunn bol de toh Hume oragasm ho jata hai. Be like China they showed the Orange nincompoop his place.

New-Implement-906

Jayada din tikne nhi wali. Abhi bkl yeh UN beech me aajayega aur kahega water band nhi kr skte koi saboot thodi h paxtan ne kra h attack. Yeh UN bkl rr krne aajata h iski wajah se aaj POK bana h warna kashmir apna hi hota.

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BitKnightRises

When i was kid &amp; learnt about Indus water treaty i wondered what will happen i guess now it's time to see and how far our government takes it because this can make pakistan die with starvation &amp; thirst.

aakritideo

it doesn't mean anything until we physically stop the water like build a dam.. but that will take years.. 100s of crores in bribes and corruption..

FantasticHero007_

Koi farak nahi isse, Balochistan ka kaand karo 1971 repeat 

TraditionalShock4779

How does suspending the treaty actually help India in terms of water management and consumption from the Indus river system? 

Apart from creating diplomatic pressure. What good does this move do?

NexusNavigator18

Ohh accha , diplomatic measures taken, election nai hai na
Masterstroke mudi ji , Masterstroke

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We don't even need a war, this is more than enough

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stuXn3tV2

Is it just me or coalition or minority governments are more aggressive in their response to terrorism ? 

Even atal bihari vajpayee had a minority coalition when kargil war happened 

And even now , BJP is more aggressive now than in 2019 and 2014

CartographerOwn3656

With all due respect its nothing just a Publicity Stunned By Government Of India everone 
should study indus water treaty it can't be broken until both parties agree Depositary of this treaty is world bank its not a tap of water which someone can turn on and off

FunctionFew1561

While treaty has been suspended. Actual water is still not diverted out stopped. For that we need dams. This is just diplomacy.

neon5k

What does this mean? India doesn't even have the infrastructure on our side to stop the flow of water, like this article is making it out to be

abhiSamjhe

India has suspended the Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan, affecting the flow of water from rivers allocated to Pakistan under the treaty.

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